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Post by conrad on Nov 29, 2016 9:19:31 GMT
The way I use my DreamScreen is I have all my inputs routed to my reciever and then route the output from my reciever into my dream screen then the DreamScreen into my Tv.. except my PS4 pro.. i route that directly into my tv to take advantage of both the 4K capability and HDR.. my other devices like the Apple TV aren't capable of displaying 4K so it doesn't affect its performance.. but I have no dream screen effect when using my PS4 pro because it is not connected like the other devices.. that's the real only work around if you are worried about the dream screen downscaleing 4k
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Post by Bart on Dec 1, 2016 16:38:24 GMT
I just purchased a 4k TV and really would like to get one of these BAD BOYS!! Any updates since the last post? If its not to far away I'll wait. Or maybe I'll just buy a cheap set of LEDs to get by with until 4K Dream Screen is released.
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Post by Bart on Dec 1, 2016 16:42:03 GMT
I just purchased a 4k TV and really would like to get one of these BAD BOYS!! Any updates since the last post? If its not to far away I'll wait. Or maybe I'll just buy a cheap set of LEDs to get by with until 4K Dream Screen is released. Never mind I looked back and found the answer. |
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Post by christian0p on Dec 17, 2016 17:14:48 GMT
AdminIs it possible to get an information, if the new 4K hardware is able to order? I will need this solution  for my new 4K TV and won't miss the DS working  thumbs up for the new hardware and hopefully the release date will be soon
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Post by Admin on Dec 19, 2016 14:41:38 GMT
We will release more information about the new hardware and DreamScreen in early 2017 and we will make this information available online and I will post a link in the "General Discussion" forum.
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Post by RMH on Dec 31, 2016 10:46:04 GMT
Has anyone had luck with a 4K downscaler, for example the Sewell Echo?
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Post by napalmDaz on Jan 3, 2017 23:27:58 GMT
I use the Fury Linker with a Denon AVR-X3300W in Zone 2. TV Direct to Zone 1 (Main). It works ok but the screen flickers twice while switching display modes as both devices perform a handshake but it works with 4K/60 for now. There is a problem with 24fps however and also with 4:2:2 chroma and 10bit+ color. Running 2160p/4:4:4/60fps @ 8bit for the time being.
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Post by mrnjstrong on Jan 10, 2017 2:38:41 GMT
Just got my DS today and installed it, I love it, but I troubleshooted "just because" and just wanted to be on the same page as everyone. It obviously doesn't support 4k as of now, but I'm waiting for the 4k one to be released, hopefully it will be soon. It's kind of a bummer that the 4k one wasn't released to begin with, especially since most gaming devices run 4k with the applicable TV - the main reason I got the DS was to play on my Xbox One. However, my resolution goes down once my Xbox is hooked up to the DS, which is normal due to the current limitations. So I unhooked it because I would rather have the full resolution available to me than back-lighting on the TV.
I do have it hooked up to my Directv receiver as of now and watching shows is pretty cool, I mean I'm able to do this because not every channel is 4k, but in the future once 4k is fully operational on all spectrums the 4k DS is a must to be created. I also hope since I have the DS kit I won't need to buy a whole new one that's 4k compatible, I mean the LED's shouldn't be changed, just the mix amp, which should be available separate for those of us that already have everything else. However, I'm still able to use the DS in ambient mode while on Xbox, so it's not a complete buzzkill.
Looking forward to 4k compatibility soon...
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Post by freddy on Jan 10, 2017 7:27:08 GMT
@mrjnstrong The DS team already confirmed that the LED strips would not have to be changed when upgrading to 4K... only the DS device itself... and possibly the splitter, as the current splitter also isn't able to handle 4K. But they were also discussing the option to build in the splitting functionality in the new DS itself, so they would not be dependent on external splitters... we'll have to wait and see what they come up with. Anyway, I'm not expecting the new 4K DS before Q2 2017...
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Post by Dave B on Feb 7, 2017 9:54:27 GMT
I went looking through this post the other day looking for a similar solution, as I recently picked up a PS4 pro and can't really fathom watching TV, movies, etc. without a dreamscreen anymore! I found the following products worked out for me. I had to replace the splitter, as the included one is not HDCP 2.2 compliant. E-SDS 1x2 HDMI Splitter 4K2K/60HZ,HDMI 2.0,HDCP 2.2,Cascaded up to 2 units(One Input To Two Outputs) www.amazon.com/dp/B01FSFV4X8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_rEzMybGJBR0V3I also needed to keep my source running at 4K through the splitter, so I used this. This has a single 1 star review but I suspect that reviewer was using improper cables, as mine behaved in a similar manner until I upgraded each piece to the cables linked below. SMARTOOO 36R1 1080P to 4k upscaler and 4k to 1080p downscaler with HDMI 2.0 18Gps amplifier repater supports up to 20 meters HDMI cable at 4k 60HZ Compliant with HDCP 2.2 and lower www.amazon.com/dp/B01N2T3LQT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2AzMybN7E4ZWWThese I use from the splitter outputs to the TV and scaler: HDMI Cable 1.5 FT (2 Pack) - HDMI 2.0 (4K @ 60Hz) Ready - 30AWG Braided Cord - High Speed 18Gbps - Gold Plated - Ethernet / Audio Return - Video 2160p HD 1080p 3D - Xbox, PlayStation, PC, Apple TV www.amazon.com/dp/B01CRA9GU0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_0HzMybW6S6REQThis one I used to run from the HDMI splitter input, through the wall and into my media center for the source. In either case, this is what worked for me and didn't cost a fortune. Cables are more important for this to work properly than I initially thought. |
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Post by thruster999 on Feb 10, 2017 17:14:37 GMT
Wouldn't it have been easier to put an independent HDMI 2.0 matrix or splitter (one capable of HDCP 2.2 pass-through) **before** the dreamscreen device? ie instead of having dreamscreen act as a splitter? That way there would be independent and simultaneous feeds to the TV **and** dreamscreen - making the TV type and capabilities irrelevant.
In fact, if a customer owned a TV only capable of only 1080p in stead of 4k, dreamscreen could sell its device packaged with a cheaper HDMI 1.4 splitter.
In any event as soon as you sell a 4k device I will give you my money for 3 TVs! Thanks
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Post by freddy on Feb 10, 2017 20:51:05 GMT
@truster999 it's clear that you don't currently own a DreamScreen. Because the current DS does NOT act as a splitter, and it *does* in fact come with an independent splitter. But the problem with basically all affordable splitters (not counting the really expensive ones here) is, that they will output the SAME signal on both output ports... meaning the signal on the output ports is always the LOWEST possible signal that both output devices can handle. So if you put the (1080p capable) DreamScreen on one output of the splitter, and a 4K capable TV on the other output, then the maximum signal that that splitter will ever output to the TV, is 1080p.
You would need a splitter with a 'bypass' option (up/downscaling on one output only) to be able to do what you describe. And those splitters are rare and quite expensive. That is why the DS team was looking into integrating splitter functionality into the (next version of the) DreamScreen itself.
If you can find one such 4K capable splitter with a bypass option, then the current DS device will work just fine for your 4K TV. But so far, I have not been able to.
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Post by thruster999 on Feb 12, 2017 16:54:23 GMT
@truster999 it's clear that you don't currently own a DreamScreen. Because the current DS does NOT act as a splitter, and it *does* in fact come with an independent splitter. But the problem with basically all affordable splitters (not counting the really expensive ones here) is, that they will output the SAME signal on both output ports... meaning the signal on the output ports is always the LOWEST possible signal that both output devices can handle. So if you put the (1080p capable) DreamScreen on one output of the splitter, and a 4K capable TV on the other output, then the maximum signal that that splitter will ever output to the TV, is 1080p. You would need a splitter with a 'bypass' option (up/downscaling on one output only) to be able to do what you describe. And those splitters are rare and quite expensive. That is why the DS team was looking into integrating splitter functionality into the (next version of the) DreamScreen itself. If you can find one such 4K capable splitter with a bypass option, then the current DS device will work just fine for your 4K TV. But so far, I have not been able to. Thanks freddy I believe my post implies I do not own a dreamscreen (yet). And when I described the DS as a "splitter" I meant it has one in & two outs -> one out to the TV and one out to the device that controls the LEDs (both devices, the TV and the DS, share the originating signal (digital stream) - like a splitter provides. Anyway, a (cheap or expensive) splitter does *not* downscale the originating signal to the lowest common denominator. An HDMI splitter passively splits the original signal; and if the originating signal is HDMI 2.0 4K and is output to two TVs (i.e. a 1080p TV and a 4K TV), that would only mean that the 1080p TV would not be able to handle the signal. The 4K TV would display the original stream, whereas the 1080p would not. However, the originating signal regardless of the device it is output to is still the originating signal and *not* downscaled. It is true that the untouched signal cannot be independently controlled when connected to an HDMI compatible device such as HD receivers/antennas. But it appears it can with a DS. For example, (my original post) the DS itself is not a display device. It sounds from what I've read in this forum that the DS would downscale the originating signal to 1080p (on its own and independently). I've also read here that a number of DSs customers own a 4k TV and have connected the DS to it and it works fine without having to make any adjustments; but the signal gets downscaled to 1080p *before* it hits the TV (automatically). So a HDMI splitter would in fact bypass the DSs downscale to 1080p and both devices (the DS and the TV) would still share the originating and unadulterated signal. The DS would downscale it whereas the 4k TV would not. Thanks |
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Post by thruster999 on Feb 12, 2017 22:30:10 GMT
Hi freddy
I've read the thread on Kickstarter regarding this issue. I guess my theory is correct except the signal must be downscaled before it hits the DS - alternatively, it is not done automatically by the DS. It appears someone on the KS thread has got this to work with a HDFury Linker which would send the originating signal to the 4k TV untouched and downscale the second signal to 1080p for the DS - but its costly.
In any event, as soon as Dreamscreen announces their 4K (HDCP 2.2 compliant) solution they can have my money.
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Post by freddy on Feb 13, 2017 7:47:28 GMT
@thruster999 most (cheaper) splitters (whether they can themselves do downscaling or not) only support ONE EDID signal, and that is determined by the lowest common denominator on the output. That is also the EDID identifier that the splitter itself sends to whatever device it is connected to that provides the input signal.
Meaning that, if one of the outputs only supports 1080p and the other can handle 4K, then the splitter's EDID will be set to 1080p, and that is what it will tell the receiver (or set top box, or Xbox, or whatever) that it receives its input signal from. Meaning that those devices will either send a 1080p (max) signal to the splitter, or no signal at all. Very few devices will ignore the EDID and send a 4K signal anyway (which is the only way that your case of having 4K on your 4K TV, and an unsupported signal on the 1080p TV, could happen).
As for what you read on Kickstarter... note that that person uses a Denon receiver (with 2 HDMI outputs that both output the same 4K signal). He put his 4K TV on one output, and the HDFury Linker (downscaler) on the other output, with the DreamScreen behind it. A 4K capable splitter with the HDFury Linker behind it would work as well, because unlike regular splitters, the HDFury WILL send a 4K capable EDID signal on its input, and subsequently do the downscaling itself. But yes, a (fairly expensive) setup like that, is the only way to make the current DS work with 4K. We'll have to wait for the announcement of what the next generation DS (the 4K capableone) will be like...
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for my new 4K TV and won't miss the DS working 
thumbs up for the new hardware and hopefully the release date will be soon 
